Undevelopment Team RISV
This blog seeks to present my comments on the provided texts. My translation choices (Revised International Standard Version) start with the base of the ISV from Biblegateway.com, use the interlinear resource provided by Biblehub.com, use the Sentinel Chronological Bible, and are my thoughts on the text. This is not a scholarly work. This is the work of an artist/writer. My thoughts are my own and used to help me study. Each entry can be updated as long as I continue to work on this blog.
Who is the Beloved Disciple?
Who is Mark?
Luke records the birth of John the Baptist and Jesus. Very little of their childhood is mentioned with, Jesus, the titular character of the entire story, having only three incidents included. When Jesus was born, he was placed in the feeding rack for the Passover lamb in the only available room in Joseph's house, likely because it was the Feast of Trumpets and the Census had brought his family to the same town at the same time. Jesus' other infant story is when he is presented at the temple for purification where his parents offer two birds, offered if you're poor. Jesus is named between this time, at his circumcision, the name the angel instructed. Zechariah was also told to name his child and after John is named, it it just said that he grew up.
Aside from this, Jesus, as a "pais" is mentioned in Luke as well. He is called a child (with some translations of this word being servant) and said to be about 12. This word "pais" for child will come up again. This is when Jesus is at the Temple and he stays behind after Passover because he says that he must be there. Then Jesus grows up.
A few other children are mentioned in the NT but they're typically not important to the story as a whole. They show up and then we don't see them again. Or do we? There may be one that is seen a few times throughout the Gospels over the course of the few years of Jesus' ministry. Because children were not given names, side from the above exceptions because they are adults in the story later too, it's hard to determine if any of the children are known to the early Christian community.
Some traditions give a name to Jairus' daughter.
In Mark 5, she is introduced by Jairus as his "thygatrion" meaning little daughter. Before Jesus can arrive at the house, someone informs Jairus that his "thygatēr" daughter is dead. When Jesus sees the people brought to weep he says that the "paidion" child is only asleep. Jesus takes the father and mother of the "paidiou" child('s) with his disciples that followed to the room where the "padiou" child was. Jesus takes the hand of the "padiou" child and says "Talitha, koum" and then this is said, to have a translation of little girl "Korasion" I say to you, arise. Lastly, Mark again uses "korasion" to say that the girl got up and he says that she was twelve years old.
Luke 8 first introduces the girl from the words of Jairus as his "thygatēr" meaning daughter. Luke says that she was about twelve years old, to identify her as little daughter. The one that comes to tell them of the news of the death calls her Jairus' "thygatēr" daughter. Jesus continues to the house with the father and mother of the "padios" child and the three disciples that followed. When Jesus enters the house and sees the weepers, he says that "apethanen" she is not dead. Luke also records that Jesus takes her hand but Luke records that Jesus says "Pais" child, arise.
The girl is never actually given a name. She is just a child and this might be the reason the NT authors don't include her name. We can see this come up again with another use of "pais" for another character that isn't given a name and doesn't show up again later as an adult.
Pais has, as I said before, been translated to 'servant' in some cases. While there is no way of identifying if the person in Matthew 12 is a child, it does seem plausible considering that these healing stories follow the same formula. Someone comes to Jesus on behalf of an ill child that is dying for healing. Other people, that are adults, are either visited on passing or taken to Jesus for healing. The "pais" in Matthew 12 is not given a name though and they don't show up again.
Where do I think Mark fits into all of this? There is another child that shows up and two 'young men' that make an appearance. I think that one of them is Mark as a child and then a young man.
The first young man that I'll talk about is probably only about 15-20. In Matthew 19, this person is called "neaniskos" young man. At first, Matthew simply says that "heis" one came to him/Jesus, though some translations use the word man. Following this, Matthew has the person, called "neaniskos" young man, reply to Jesus that he has kept all these things/the commandments. This ends with the "neaniskos" young man going away grieving.
Mark 10 and Luke 18 do not seem to identify this person as a young man. Instead, they simply say they are a certain person or a ruler but the person themselves says that they have kept the commandments from their youth. This doesn't define the word that Matthew uses though as Matthew could be mistaking the youth comment for the person being young.
The word "neaniskos" young man is used for another character that only seems to make a one time appearance. I will argue, however, that this character is making a second appearance in this moment and that their ambiguity identifies them as a child, as we would consider them, at the time. Though the term could be applied to a young adult this will actually be helpful to my case. The word itself is used a number of times and has been thought to identify anyone under the age of 40 yet I don't think the support for this is very strong. They are over the age of being called "Pais" child though.
In Mark 14, this is a somewhat random comment about a "neaniskos" young man that had been following Jesus, who was arrested, and Peter, who was following Jesus. Mark calls them a certain young man. He doesn't name them though. This person appears here, has a moment where they are following Jesus at his arrest, and then they slip away naked. But why doesn't the author identify them by name? Other have suspected that this is the author talking about themselves and I'm inclined to agree. This is over three years into Jesus' ministry and not everyone that he encountered is named but to include this as a particular character that the readers should know seems fitting to me to be the author themselves.
But then who is the author? Who is Mark? Why are they there?
To put the conclusion forward, Mark is Peter's son.
Right before the feeding of the 5000 in Mark 6, Jesus had sent out the 12 without provisions so that they would be relying on God to provide for them. This meant that they would go to a town and if the people did not take them in, house them while they were there, and feed them, that they were to leave because those people did not care for the word of God or to care for the servants of God. So when the group returned, they had not had a chance to eat, they were being surrounded by a great crowd, and then Jesus says that they should go away to a solitary place.
Peter, as we would find out in Mark 1, has a mother-in-law and this means that he was married. This would also suggest a high probability of Peter having a child already when he follows Jesus. I don't see anything in the Gospels about Peter's wife directly and I can only assume that his child is mentioned indirectly. The child would likely not be old enough to journey with him at the beginning of Jesus' ministry but if what I'm about to put forth is true, then by the end, he would have been old enough to attend the last supper with Jesus. At least once, when Jesus is at home, and this is probably Peter's house, there is a child there that is addressed but not named, sat by Jesus.
Going back to the feeding of the 5000 in Mark 6, we read that they were seen trying to go away to a desolate place but the people from all the surrounding towns, who were waiting for them, ran to the place to meet them. One of these towns would have been where Peter and Andrew were from. When it becomes late, the disciples ask Jesus to send them away so that they my buy themselves something to eat but Jesus tells them to give the crowds something to eat. Mark 6:37 is Jesus giving the instructions of "You give them something to eat." to his disciples. The disciples ask if they should buy bread the worth of 200 denarii. Jesus continues with asking how many loaves they have and that they should go and see. They shouldn't have any food with them. They had just come back from their mission and left without being able to eat. This didn't stop Jesus from telling them to use their own food to feed the crowd but first they need to check what food they have. Mark says "and when they had found out" meaning that they did an inventory check and found that they had five loaves and two fish with them. But where did this food come from?
This is where the Gospel of John is helpful in giving us information that the author of Mark, or perhaps Peter avoids. In John 6:8, Andrew, the brother of Peter, says that there is a "paidarion" little boy with them that has five loaves and two fish. Jesus' instructions were for the disciples to use their own food to feed the crowd not for them to steal food from children in the crowd. Without getting too deep into the significance of the crowd itself, where you can find a strong case for it consisting of only adult men that are divided into military units, there is no reason to suggest that the boy is from the crowd but rather from among the disciples themselves. While they are still called a child and this would mean that they are not a disciple themselves, they are probably there, with the food, to feed the disciples because they're a family member. I suggest that this is Peter's son, Mark, the author of the Gospel that neither Peter nor Mark mention by name in the Gospel itself. John is also familiar with not naming the child, who would at his time be known, but rather can be hinting at identifying them by way of Andrew, the brother of Peter, being the one to say there is a little boy there with the food, the food that is there's to feed the crowd.
None of this is saying that this is Peter's son or that this child is Mark. I can only present the case as it appears to me. I don't pretend that this is enough but rather I think it's interesting enough to consider these moments all being good clues as to what is intended or hinted at by the authors. This isn't over though. There is more to say about Mark himself. Something much more solid.
1 Peter 5 concludes with the name of the writer of the letter, regarded by Peter as a faithful brother, Silvanus, She who is in Babylon, and "Markos, ho huios mou" Mark, my son. Looking at "huios" son, this is a word for a biological son. Unlike what Paul uses for Timothy in 1 Corinthians 4, when he says that he sent Timothy to them, who is his beloved "teknon" child, Peter is saying that Mark is indeed his son. Given the case set by others of there only being one John who is also called Mark, we should look at this person as being Peter's son. Mark who traveled with Paul, Mark that is part of the Circumcision party, Mark the cousin of Barnabas, Mark the son of Mary who lives in Jerusalem at the time of Acts 12.
In Acts 12, Peter has been arrested by King Herod Agrippa I in Jerusalem and it was planned to bring him out to the people after the Passover but he was instead freed by an angel of the Lord. On realizing that he was free, Peter went to a random house of a woman named Mary where some people where praying for Peter because reasons. Well, that would be fine except that the servant girl named Rhoda recognized Peter by his very voice. Peter ran to this home out of all places that he could have gone, including leaving the town. Peter, a married man, ran to the home of Mary, the mother of John whose other name was Mark. The people there were praying for Peter because they knew him. I believe that this was his home in Jerusalem, that he had moved here, and this this Mary is his wife connecting, once again, Mark to being his Son. It could also be said, that while 1 Peter is being written, Peter lives in Rome and so the She in Babylon is his wife that he himself never names. Remember that it is Luke that names Mary and only when Mark would be an adult is he named. Mark is old enough to journey on his own with Paul and his cousin and return to Jerusalem on his own too. He can still be called a son (Luke 7:11-17 shows a widow's son being the provider of her house being raised by Jesus) and be an adult in Acts 12. He's mentioned here probably because he is known and older in the story itself of Acts that was written years after the Gospel that Luke writes.
Mark, as I believe, is Peter's son, who saw Jesus whenever he was at their home, and witnessed the feeding of the 5000. He knew his father's Gospel and recorded it early because his father's life was under constant threat. He was Peter's interpreter, not translator, suggesting that the was the one that either wrote it down or acted it out as it was being preached by Peter.
UPDATE
It would appear that there was more to learn about the transmission of information. While I remain skeptical of the information, origin point and accuracy, it does seem that Mark was know to be with Peter for a while and said to have left his written work when they departed. The departed mention could be talking about a time when they left a community. Being that Peter is said to have stayed in Jerusalem for 12 years after the resurrection before departing, it would seem to fit that this is when Mark passes down the written form of the Gospel that Peter preached.
I also find it interesting that the Gospel of Mark calls a place "home" a few times. This is in reference to Jesus being at "home" and generally thought to be Peter's home. I see it as more evidence that Mark is calling this place his home.
The Gospel According to John Chapter 5 "Jacob's Well" RISV
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Chapter 5 "Jesus Goes to Jacob's Well"
The phrase 1"Give me to drink" seems to be something for that there are no proper English words. The concept is something like 1"Feed me drink" and this comes out more in the response by the woman that asks how Jesus can ask her to feed him drink in the form of 2"from me to drink do ask" (1 Δός μοι πεῖν)(2 παρ’ ἐμοῦ πεῖν αἰτεῖς) and it sounds better to use the word "Feed" when lacking a better term to communicate the act of pouring a drink directly into someone's mouth, as it seems this is what Jesus is asking. It's much more absurd to think that this, by the woman's perspective, Judean is asking for her to bring the drink directly to him and feed it to him than it would be to hand him a cup or ladle and thus her response is understood, "How can you ask me to feed you? You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan."
What is this 'Gift of God' that Jesus includes in his answer to the woman? He uses this word "had known" or "remember" seemingly to draw her attention to the water in the well itself as the gift. While I might see some similarities to the well in Beer, where the Lord had instructed Moses to gather the people so he could give them water, and then they traveled to Mattanah, named from the word "Gift", these locations are over 70 km away from Jacob's well. There could still be a connection between God giving them water and Jesus asking for water as both had thirst that was satisfied by the gift. The closest connection I can find is in Targumic Traditions where these texts supposedly talk about the "Well of Israel" being a miraculous gift from God that traveled with the Israelites, and a Midrash quote on Numbers 21, about the well being one that followed the people underground in the wilderness to give them water. It is said this this is the same well "spring of water" that was a gift well originally dug by the fathers, those being Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The woman would then have remembered that the well she was drawing water from is a gift to give to all his people so they may have life, something that she admits to in her response to Jesus.
I don't know what to do with "never not will thirst to the age" (οὐ μὴ διψήσει εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα) in verse 7. This is only my second time seeing such a phrase describing a double negative with an age as the noun. As far as I can tell, it's simply "Will never thirst again" using a metaphorical meaning of 'to the age' to give a time that never comes. Something similar might occur in the last chapter of John's Gospel.
As Jesus continues to talk to the woman, he asks her to fetch her husband and bring him back. She tells him that she doesn't have a husband and Jesus acknowledges that she has cleverly avoided the truth but he already knows the truth. She has been with 5 men, either by means of dependence or for sexual reasons "we do not know" but the man she is with now is not her husband. The double meaning of the word ἄνδρα makes this hard to parse. She may never have been married.
There are some idioms used in their conversation. Nothing that we couldn't understand today. The use of the word "See" to indicating understanding, even though the word is also about vision, and the use of the word "Hour" to indicate a period of time that will have a starting point but no clear ending.
Jesus tells the woman that her people worship without knowing God's plan of redemption because they only kept to the Pentateuch. On the other hand, the people of Judah kept the prophetic scriptures and the temple system, thus they knew that the savior would come from the Jewish people.
The woman tells Jesus that she knows that the Messiah will come to explain everything to them and Jesus responds with saying that he is that person doing that very thing right there. She leaves her jar behind, no longer feeling the need for it, to tell the people in her town that she has found the Christ. He tells them to follow her to the man who disclosed to her the truth.
Jesus tells his disciples that he "I" has food to eat and that they don't know the food. When they question this to themselves, he explains that the food is the will of God to harvest the people in an eschatological sense. The tense of the conversation shifts here too. Making it more impactful that what Jesus is telling them is important. This is his command, to harvest the field, actively.
The Gospel According to Mark Chapter 4 "Jesus' Family" RISV
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Chapter 4 "Jesus' Family"
For verse 1,
The Gospel According to Mark Chapter 3 "Jesus, Lord of Sabbath" RISV
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Chapter 3 "Jesus, Lord of Sabbath"
For verse 1,
The Gospel According to Mark Chapter 2 "Jesus Goes Out" RISV
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Chapter 2 "Jesus Goes Out"
For verse 1,
The Gospel According to Mark Chapter 1 "Jesus Arrives" RISV
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Chapter 1 "Jesus Arrives"
For verse 1,
The Gospel According to John Chapter 4 "The Disciples Baptize" RISV
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Chapter 4 "The Disciples Baptize"
My Thoughts
We find out later that Jesus had not been the one baptizing so when it says that Jesus went and remained with his disciples, they were the ones baptizing. Not only were they now baptizing but John was also still baptizing but he had moved to a place named for the many springs, near Salim.
In verse 4, John replies with a curious statement about what a person has. I remember this being explained as "The greatest power a person can receive can only be given to them by God."
The Gospel According to John Chapter 3 “Jesus Goes to Jerusalem” RISV
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Chapter 3 "Jesus Goes to Jerusalem"
My Thoughts
Side note: Jesus' brothers.
The use of Psalm 69 here is interesting. If we take a look at the entire Psalm, as quoting a Psalm draws the listener to consider the whole thing, then we see some striking parallels between what David was experiencing and what Jesus was feeling. "What I did not steal must I now restore?" can relate to the way the system of exchange was used to "steal" money from the people, something God did not ask them to do(69:1-4). These wrongs are not hidden from him, he observes them first(69:5). They have made the temple unrecognizable by making it look like a market (69:6-8). "For Zeal... The reproaches of those who reproach you have fallen on me." by these actions, the people that grumble about the system or view it in a negative way will turn that negativity toward Jesus (69:9). The rest is David responding to his pain with fasting and asking to be saved from the 'flood' that sweeps over him, then it turns to asking for action that might sound similar to the destruction of the temple itself, and it ends with praises to God saying that the offspring of his servants will inherit Zion and the land.
When Jesus cleanses the temple here, something he will do again later in his ministry, he is asked what it means. I think the question is hard to translate "Τί σημεῖον δεικνύεις ἡμῖν ὅτι ταῦτα ποιεῖς" (What sign 'show you' 'to us' 'that' these things 'you do'?). Rather than asking for a sign of the things he does, something that could be demanded with "Show us a sign" or "Give us a sign", they ask for an explanation of his actions/the sign he shows them. Even the word for "show you" (δεικνύεις) is a present active, to me suggesting that, combined with "because" (ὅτι) they are talking about something he is doing not something they want him to do.
Jesus' answer to their question, though he doesn't exactly say that what he is doing is a sign, is that if the temple "his body" is broken/unbound/torn down, then in three days he will bring it back or rebuild it. The difference between Λύσατε and ἀπόλλυμι, the first one being the word John uses in John 2:19, is that between death and a severe punishment. This will be important later when Jesus is arrested where it will be about 3 days before he resurrects.
Although. I can see why they might be asking for a sign for the future that they might await. "Tell us something that will prove to us that you are from God, something that you can predict, so that we know what you do is by the will of God." So that when they see the sign he gives for this thing, they will know that God sent him. I left the line a little ambiguous because I can't seem to find a good enough defense for this odd wording.
As it follows, while Jesus was in Jerusalem, he was doing signs and people believed in his name because of them. This gives more credence to the idea that the author is using the celestial images as significant signs from Jesus about what he would do. The first sign is pouring out the water that becomes a sweet nectar and even though he was doing more signs, they were not the same as the 7 that Jesus would fulfill from the Mazzaroth.
While in Jerusalem, Jesus preforms signs observed by the people that believe in his name but he doesn't "entrust" himself to them. This is probably referring to giving away who he really is. He keeps this back because he knows human nature, a phrase identified by the common use of "tō anthrōpō".
After this but while still in Jerusalem, Jesus meets with Nicodemus. While their conversation has been interpreted as Jesus giving the instructions for a future baptism or theosis, it seem to be more about Jesus identifying himself. He's saying that he was born from Mary even though he was already the Ancient One before this and Nicodemus doesn't understand how an old man can be born.
When Jesus tells Nicodemus that one must be born of 'water and the Spirit' he is shifting the conversation on to how Nicodemus must understand what it takes to be part of the kingdom that Jesus brings. When the Israelites were brought out of Egypt, they were brought through water and guided by the Spirit to be a new people born out of Egypt. Nicodemus would be aware of this and connect with what Jesus was saying "earthly things" more than his statements about himself "spiritual things". In order for one to see the kingdom, they have to be born as a new nation guided by the Spirit.
It's long but I left the familiar verses of John 3, that is 16-21, all as one poetic verse. It's no longer part of the conversation between Jesus and Nicodemus. These are the words of the author and a summary of the conversations from the Baptist to Jesus up to this point